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November 2019

  The Professional Exchange - IE-CAMFT Newsletter


November 15, 2019


At the Intersection of Depth Psychology & Self Care: An Alternate New Lens on Motivational Interviewing

Dr. Maxine Langdon Starr

Participants will be able to further understand and have greater sophistication about the bridge between these three main ideas of Hermeneutics, Depth Psychology, and Self Care; and how these ideas inform the principles of Motivational Interviewing; which will be expanded upon during the initial presentation; to then be experienced in a workshop style discussion later on. This will then impact their overall professional growth within their therapy room(s) as they take these ideas back to how they interact with their clients and reflect upon these concepts as they relate to their own development and experiential lens.


  • Research methodology that encompasses “the art of understanding” (Thiselton, 2009, pp. 2-3).
  • Take into account the meaning(s) that one may assign to a text, voice passage, or in our case, therapy session and meaning(s) that a therapist may consciously and/or unconsciously assign to a client(s) narrative.

Depth Psychology

  • Began with Freud (of course) but Jung brought another layer of meaning to the discussion
  • Deals with the unconscious & what is not being said in treatment (both on part of client and especially therapist)
  • Uses principles outside the “typical” norm of therapy to inform the therapeutic process (e.g., myth, religion, spirituality, history, greater societal context(s))


  • No one understands that taking care of what cannot be seen (AKA not just from a medical, empirically scientific point of view) is a critical step in healthcare more than therapists do.
  • How much self-care are we doing for ourselves; and if we are not, then how can we expect our clients to be motivated for change?
  • “Motivational interviewing respects patient self-determination, acknowledges patient autonomy, and recognizes that it is the patient who must decide whether and how to change behaviors” (McCarthy, 2009, p. 413).
  • Developing a discrepancy between current behaviors & future goals is key to supporting client self-efficacy in improvement of self-care domains.

Motivational Interviewing

  • Originally conceived as a brief, evidence based therapy intervention
  • Recent research has focused on the spirit of motivational interviewing, which:

“Encourages subjective interpretation of how to emulate concepts such as partnership, acceptance, compassion, and evocation” (Crawford, J. I., 2016, p. 54).

  • Embedded within the definition of motivational interviewing is the goal to enhance motivation to change via resolution of ambivalence (Miller & Rollnick, 2013; as also stated in Crawford, J.I., 2016).
  • This grappling with ambivalence directly ties back into one of the primary conflicts (most likely unconscious) that many clients are presenting within the therapeutic context and may be unknowingly hindering their ability to meet their self-expressed goals.


  • 1. Understand at least 3 innovative ways that depth psychology, hermeneutics, and principles of self-care apply to motivational interviewing
  • 2. Apply at least 3 principles of hermeneutics as they relate to working with clients from a motivational interviewing perspective
  • 3. Apply at least 2 principles of depth psychology as they relate to working with clients from a motivational interviewing perspective
  • 4. Recognize at least 2 ways their own inner communication may influence communication in therapy and thus have some common threads to self-care and therapist personal development.


Dr. Starr has been licensed since 2012 as an MFT in California. She received her Ph.D. in Depth Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute in 2016. She has been in private practice since 2011, and specializes in working with adolescents, young adults, and women’s issues; including treating issues relating to self-care, self-esteem, and stress. She works full time within the school district’s Special Education Department as an Educationally Related Mental Health Therapist and is an adjunct professor at several universities in the Southern CA area teaching courses for future MFTs, and in programs of ABA, School Counseling, and School Psychology.

Brief List of References:

Crawford, J.I. (2016). Transformative Communication: A Depth Psychological Perspective of Motivational Interviewing. (Ph.D. Dissertation). Pacifica Graduate Institute, Carpinteria, CA, USA.

McCarthy, P. (2009). Patient empowerment and motivational interviewing: Engaging patients to self-manage their own care. Nephrology Nursing Journal, 36(4), 409-413.

Miller, W. R., & Rollnick, S. (2013). Motivational interviewing third edition: Helping

people change. New York, NY: Guilford Press.

Thiselton, A. (2009). Hermeneutics: An introduction. Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans.


Inland Empire Chapter of CAMFT is a CAMFT Approved CEU Provider Agency  Provider # 62278

CEU Hours: This course meets the qualifications for 2 hours of continuing education credit for LMFTs, LCSWs, LPCCs, and LEPs as required by the California Board of Behavioral Sciences

Certificates: Completion certificates will be awarded at the conclusion of the training and upon participant’s submission of his or her completed evaluation.

Refund Policy:  If a participant is unable to attend and notifies IE-CAMFT 24 hours in advance of the training, full reimbursement will be sent within ten (10) working days.

Grievance:  If any aspect of the training is not to the full satisfaction of any participant, please notify the coordinator, CEU committee chair, or another IE-CAMFT board member.  We hope to resolve any issue immediately on-site.  If not resolved, the full IE-CAMFT board will review and resolve the issue.

IE-CAMFT wishes all participants to have an excellent learning experience.  Please notify the coordinator or other board member if you need special accommodations.  If possible, call Garry Raley at (951) 640-5899 in advance. 

Presenter Non-Appearance Policy

In the unlikely event that a scheduled presenter does not appear for a scheduled event, the following steps will be used to remediate inconvenience to attendees:

An announcement will be made to inform everyone that CEU credits cannot be provided due to inability to meet CAMFT standards for advance notice, etc.

The meeting will be held.  Attendees will be encouraged to participate for the purpose of professional development.

If an attendee has paid for the seminar, s/he will receive either a full refund or credit for a future presentation.

If the topic will be repeated at a later time, notice of the date and time will be provided to all interested parties.


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We experienced a few hiccups last month when trying to implement our new seminar automated system.  The online evaluation process went very smoothly but we ran into some problems when sending out the certificates.  Please accept our sincere apology for any inconvenience or confusion this caused.

We have now identified and corrected the issues that were causing the problem and we're  confident it will go very well at this month's event and beyond.  We would like to ask that you fill out the online seminar evaluation form promptly following the seminar so that we can minimize the amount of time spent ensuring the delivery of your certificates.

Thank you so much for your patience and understanding as we make this transition.


This issue:  

November Featured Event



Welcome New and Renewing Members!                       


At our Last Meeting           

President's Message

Upcoming Events


Welcome New and Returning Members!


Leticia Walton, Christa Wallis, Janice Browning, Deanne Edwards, Mona Orton, Yvette Magana, Victor Reyes, Rakeshia Morgan

Thank you for renewing!

Catherine Ferrari, Imelda Mares, Samantha Moreno, Marie Bassil, Sandi Duffield, Michelle Gasper,  Zelda M. Verrett

Renewal Reminders:  Jay Burke, Catherine Caporale, Richard Robbins, Ronena Summers,Vickie Marshall, RoseAnn Connerley, Monica Smith,  Andrea Watson, Yvonne Jackson, Katherine Mageno, Roberta Reid, Erminilla Saucedo, Elizabeth Dupray, Erica Taylor

It is YOU the members who keep our chapter going!  If your membership is up for renewal please complete the renewal process as soon as possible--your membership is the backbone of our organization and what allows us to keep offering great seminars and CEUs, the Therapist Directory, Membership Directory, and more.  Thank you! :)


At Our Last Meeting . . . 

EMDR: healing unprocessed memories that create disturbance and dysfunction

Nicole Serrano, LMFT


EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing) is a theoretical orientation that has become widely known or heard of in our profession; however many are still confused by what the theory is about and how it works. In this presentation, we explored what EMDR is and how it works, debunked myths, and clarified information on how EMDR is used today and where the research is going in the future. We looked at the theoretical orientation’s eight phases of treatment (client history and treatment planning, client preparation, assessment, desensitization, installation, body scan, closure, and reevaluation); the protocols (past, present, future, and recent event) and forms of bilateral stimulation (eye movement, taps, tones). We explored Dr. Francine Shapiro’s AIP (adaptive information processing) model which is the framework in which the eight phases and past, present, and future protocols are worked through.  We reviewed options on how to become trained and/or certified in EMDR, and resources to learn more. In the end, professionals had a better grasp on what EMDR is, who would be a good candidate for it, and how to refer a client to a professional trained or certified in EMDR and how to seek training in EMDR.  

With this training, the educational goal was to clinically obtain a better understanding of the EMDR theoretical orientation to be able to identify appropriate client candidates for treatment and understand how to seek appropriate training in EMDR. 

  • Definition and overview of history of EMDR
  • Overview of EMDR Adaptive Information Processing model
  • 8 phases of treatment
  • 3 pronged protocols
  • BLS forms
  • Appropriate clients for EMDR (ages, populations, diagnosis)
  • How to explain EMDR to a client
  • How to refer a client to an EMDR therapist
  • Recognizing signs that a client will need an EMDR therapist specializing in dissociation and/ or parts work.
  • EMDR Resources
  • Where to find more information on EMDR and its research
  • Where to become trained in EMDR (and difference in trained vs certified)
  • Information on various protocols for specialized treatment (chronic pain, dissociation/ parts work, addiction, couples, first responders, military, performance enhancement , Children)

Learning Objectives:

1. Define EMDR therapy and identify the 8 phases of treatment

2. List 3-pronged protocol  

3. List 3 forms of bilateral stimulation  

4. Identify 4 resources to obtain more information on EMDR and training opportunities.


Nicole Serrano is a bilingual licensed marriage family therapist in the state of California that has over 5 years treating trauma across various settings such as in the home, hospital, community mental health agencies and private practice office for the children and adult populations. She has worked with children and families in wraparound program, and adults with chronic mental illness and substance abuse. She also previously worked with children, adults, and geriatrics at Loma Linda University Behavioral Medicine Center.   

Currently, Nicole has a private practice located in Rancho Cucamonga, CA where she serves adults for individual and couples therapy. Nicole is currently trained in EMDR and working towards certification. Nicole was trained in EMDR through the EMDR International Association. Nicole also serves couples and is trained in Gottman Method of Couples Therapy Level 2.

To view a video interview with the presenter go to:

Nicole Serrano interview on our IE-CAMFT YouTube channel.

President's Message:


Wow are we really in November? How did that happen?  Let me take this time to remind you that our meeting this month will be earlier than our usual fourth Friday of the month.  This month’s meeting will be on November 15thPlease make a note of this in your Calendar.  Our speaker is Dr.Maxine Langdon Starr, speaking on an interesting subject: “At the Intersection of Depth Psychology & Self-Care: an Alternate New Lens on Motivational Interviewing.”  Another interesting topic to give you new insight and offer another opportunity to acquire 2 CEU’s.


We are at the beginning of the holiday season.  I am sure some of you will be taking vacations and trips to see your family.  Possibly your work hours will change throughout this holiday season.  It most definitely is a whirlwind of plans and get-togethers. We as an organization will celebrate with our IE-CAMFT Holiday Party on December 14th open to chapter members. Will you be attending?  Remember self-care includes enjoying the holidays with family, friends, and co-workers.  We look forward to seeing you at our next training in two weeks and possibly at the IE-CAMFT Holiday Party on December 14th.

Carol Rose Adkisson, President



Upcoming Events:

Holiday Party for members - December 14, 2019

Modern Parenting Solutions - January 24, 2020

Law & Ethics 2020 - February 28, 2020


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